WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama lauded Secretary
of State Hillary Rodham Clinton as one of his closest advisers and said their
shared vision for America's role in the world persuaded his one-time rival —
and potential successor — to be his top diplomat while he dealt with the
shattered economy at home.
During a joint interview that aired Sunday, Obama and
Clinton chuckled as they described their partnership and stoked speculation
that Obama may prefer Clinton to succeed him in the White House after the 2016
elections. Clinton is leaving Obama's Cabinet soon, and speculation about the
former first lady and senator has only grown more intense after a heated
appearance last week on Capitol Hill.
Both Obama and Clinton batted away questions about future
campaigns, but the joint interview — the president's first with anyone other
than first lady Michelle Obama — was only likely to increase the fascination
with Clinton's future.
"The president and I care deeply about what's going
to happen for our country in the future," Clinton said. "And I don't
think, you know, either he or I can make predictions about what's going to
happen tomorrow or the next year."
Obama, who suggested the joint interview as Clinton
prepared her exit from the State Department, lavished praise on his rival for
the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination. He called her a friend and an
extraordinary talent, and praised "her discipline, her stamina, her
thoughtfulness, her ability to project."
It teetered on an endorsement of a 2016 presidential bid
that is still an open question. Clinton advisers say she has not made a
decision about a run, while Democratic officials suggest Clinton would be an
early favorite if she decided to mount another campaign.
Obama and Clinton laughed when asked about the political
future.
"You guys in the press are incorrigible," Obama
said when pressed on another Clinton presidency. "I was literally
inaugurated four days ago. And you're talking about elections four years from
now."
The possibility of a presidential campaign for Vice
President Joe Biden did not come up during the interview, taped Friday at the
White House.
Obama described why he insisted Clinton become his
secretary of state.
"She also was already a world figure," Obama
said. "To have somebody who could serve as that effective ambassador in
her own right without having to earn her stripes, so to speak, on the
international stage, I thought, would be hugely important."
It was a job she initially refused. But Obama kept
pushing, Clinton said.
"The one thing he did mention was he basically said:
'You know, we've got this major economic crisis that may push us into a
depression. I'm not going to be able to do a lot to satisfy the built-up
expectations for our role around the world. So you're going to have to get out
there and, you know, really represent us while I deal with, you know, the
economic catastrophe I inherited."
It's a job she embraced during the last four years. She
arrived on the job with a global brand she quickly lent to promoting U.S.
interests. In return, the public rewarded her with high approval ratings that
could come in handy if she runs in 2016.
But her tenure has had its blemishes. For example, the
United States did not directly intervene in the civil war in Syria, where the
United Nations says more than 60,000 people have been killed and more than 2
million people have been internally displaced since the start of the conflict
in March 2011.
"There are transitions and transformations taking
place all around the world. We are not going to be able to control every aspect
of every transition and transformation," Obama said, saying his jobs are
to protect the United States and engage where the U.S. can make a difference.
In a separate interview with The New Republic, also
released Sunday, Obama said, "As I wrestle with those decisions, I am more
mindful probably than most of not only our incredible strengths and
capabilities, but also our limitations."
On "60 Minutes," he praised Clinton's State
Department for helping him sort out what the United States can — and cannot —
accomplish.
"It has been a great collaboration over the last
four years. I'm going to miss her. Wish she was sticking around. But she has
logged in so many miles, I can't begrudge her wanting to take it easy for a
little bit," Obama said.
It's something of a turnaround from 2007 and 2008, as the
two raced through Iowa and New Hampshire and onward. In increasingly bracing
language, the two excoriated the other. At one point, a visibly angry Clinton
seethed, "Shame on you, Barack Obama."
Obama now jokes about the rivalry.
"Made for tough debates, by the way, because we
could never figure out what we were different on," the president said.
Both acknowledged disagreements continue but said they
had common goals.
"Are there going to be differences? Yeah. Deep
differences? Of course," Clinton said. "You had a lot of
strong-willed, -minded people. But the president deserves our best judgment,
our advice and then he deserves us to stand with him and to execute."
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